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Katie: Good day and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode is all about one thing known as autojuvenation, which is mainly how to use your physique’s personal regenerative potential to look and really feel youthful. And I’m right here with Dr. Anthony Youn, who is called America’s holistic plastic surgeon. He’s a nationally acknowledged board-certified plastic surgeon who’s acknowledged as a frontrunner in his subject and creator of the bestselling books, The Age Repair, In Stitches, and Enjoying God. His public tv particular, The Age Repair with Dr. Anthony Youn, has been seen by thousands and thousands. And he additionally hosts the favored podcast, The Holistic Plastic Surgical procedure Present.

He’s probably the most adopted plastic surgeon on social media with over 4.5 million subscribers on his YouTube channel and eight million followers on TikTok. And his new guide, Younger for Life, is a whole holistic information to turning again the clock on the method of getting old with autojuvenation. And we go deep on that matter as we speak, in addition to procedures he does and doesn’t suggest, how he thinks that a lot could be executed with out ever turning to surgical procedure to actually enhance pores and skin look and flip again the clock on getting old. And he offers some very particular suggestions for this. He’s so well-spoken and such a pleasure to discuss to. So, let’s be part of Dr. Anthony. Tony, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here.

Anthony: Thanks a lot for having me.

Katie: I’m actually excited for this dialog and to speak about how we will basically use our physique’s pure processes to age extra gracefully and even slower or reverse among the indicators of getting old. However earlier than we soar into that, I’ve a be aware out of your bio that you simply as soon as performed guitar and sang in a Jimmy Buffett cowl band. And since we not too long ago misplaced him, I’d love to hear this story and how that began and what it was like.

Anthony: Yeah, I imply, I truly began enjoying guitar again in school, and I’m very mediocre of a guitarist and singer. And so, after I began my residency, I simply, I’ve at all times had this type of artistic streak. And I believed, you already know, I’m this large fan of Jimmy Buffett. And I heard that there have been some people who find themselves keen on placing a band collectively. So, I emailed a contact I had, and he stated, let’s do it. And we spent about, so I used to be, I did 5 years of residency. And through that point, we in all probability did about 50 or 60 gigs the place we’d do like play at events, at bars and stuff. And it was my means of, I believe, dwelling out a, if I may decide one job that I may have that I simply, there’s no means I may ever do, however I’d love could be like a rock star. And that was the closest that I’ll ever get to it. And as soon as I completed residency, I truly moved out to California. Since then, I’ve truly, and the band broke up, however since then I’ve performed for my church band often and stuff like that. So, it’s, it was loads of enjoyable, however. It was undoubtedly tiring as a result of as a resident, I’d even have days the place I’d work 36 hours and then I would depart the hospital, get become my like tropical garments and go play from 10 p.m. to 2 a.m. at a bar and then be again to work the following morning at 6 a.m. So, it was powerful, but it surely was enjoyable.

Katie: Wow, I can solely think about, however in all probability a fantastic artistic outlet throughout an in any other case extraordinarily centered and intense interval of life. I like that you simply did that and that’s truly an ideal springboard into what would be the bulk of our dialog as we speak, which is the work that you simply do now and the numerous 1000’s of individuals that you simply’ve helped. I believe for form of simply background and place to begin, you employ a time period that I’ve not heard earlier than, which I consider is autojuvenation. And I’d love for you to clarify what meaning and form of among the background for this dialog.

Anthony: Yeah, so simply to provide the background, I completed cosmetic surgery residency coaching, and I did a 12 months fellowship in beauty cosmetic surgery out in Beverly Hills with one of many high plastic surgeons there. Then I moved again to Michigan, and I began my follow again in 2004. And inside the subsequent in all probability 5 to seven years, I reached what I believed was a pinnacle of success. On the time, as a surgeon, you gauge your success by the quantity of surgical procedure that you simply do. And we’re at all times taught in our residency and our coaching that the objective of being a surgeon is to carry individuals to the working room. And so, I at all times consider that that needs to be my objective.

After which a affected person utterly modified that and flipped that the other way up for me. So, I believed I’d reached the top of success. And once you have a look at totally different fields of medication, particularly with surgical procedure, there’s at all times a surgical procedure that’s thought-about the top. And in the event you do this, you are feeling completed. If you happen to’re a basic surgeon, that’s the Whipple. It’s like an enormous most cancers surgical procedure that may take eight to 12 hours. In cosmetic surgery, it’s in all probability the facelift. I imply, as a result of individuals might belief anyone to do their liposuction, however you’ll be darn certain if anyone’s gonna lower in your face that you simply’re gonna be very picky about that. And so, about 5 to seven years into follow, I believed that I’d reached the top of success. I used to be having individuals flying in from all around the nation to have me do their surgical procedure and their facelifts and all that. And I had a affected person that I did a faceless on, a very nice lady in her late 60s, and I did an operation on her that went completely. We truly stored her in a single day within the hospital only for routine monitoring. Then she went house, and she went house on a Friday morning, and that Monday morning I got here into the workplace with a message from her daughter, and the message was, “Why did my mother die?” She died that weekend only a few days after I carried out a facelift on her, and it despatched me right into a tailspin. As a result of up till then, I’d by no means actually had a complication like that.

And so, I began wanting like, to begin with, like what occurred right here? Is there one thing I may have executed to forestall this? And it seems she had an enormous coronary heart assault. Now we did have her see a heart specialist prior to her surgical procedure. She bought utterly cleared. She had a stress check. Every thing was constructive. There’s no cause why this could have occurred, but it did. And for months, I beat myself up over it. I used to be completely devastated. I thought-about closing out my follow, and I actually re-looked at what am I doing with my job, with my profession, with my sufferers?

And I lastly got here to the conclusion that every thing I used to be taught about being a surgeon was unsuitable. The objective shouldn’t be to get individuals to the working room. The objective needs to be the alternative. It needs to be, how do I maintain individuals out of the working room, but maintain them feeling nice about themselves and wanting nice and all of that? And so, I actually began to spend years then wanting into various strategies of how do I get individuals the place they wanna be with out bringing them to surgical procedure? And I got here up with this idea of autojuvenation and it’s utilizing your physique’s personal regenerative skills to flip again the clock, to provide you with that look that you simply’ve needed, to flip again 5, 10 years and aid you to really feel higher about the way you look.

Katie: Wow, that’s fairly the extraordinary story. And I can solely think about what it was like to even have lived that have. However I like that you simply introduced this up, particularly about surgical procedure, as a result of I do know for lots of the mothers listening, this will not be one thing lots of them have had, however I’d guess many have at the least thought-about the provision of all of the totally different choices associated to surgical procedure. I do know, weak for me personally, after having six infants, I’ve thought-about various kinds of pores and skin elimination surgical procedure, as an illustration. And I’ve at all times hesitated and by no means actually regarded into it significantly due to simply understanding issues like fascia and how linked the entire physique is. I simply haven’t had a superb instinct about it. However I like that you simply, having such a deep understanding of the surgical facet, nonetheless got here to this conclusion and now assist individuals keep away from it. I’m curious in the event you may stroll us by among the dangers that come with surgical procedure and additionally among the methods round that, as a result of I believe that’s in all probability a hope for lots of people to perceive there are different choices that it feels like that may work actually, very well.

Anthony: Yeah, and I believe that one of many surgical procedures I do loads of are tummy tuck surgical procedures, and it’s primarily on mothers, individuals who’ve had, ladies who’ve had a number of youngsters, their pores and skin has been stretched out, it doesn’t look or really feel the identical means. Now, the dangers of surgical procedure begin with dying, and at any time when anyone comes to see me in session and they are saying, “Hey, what’s the worst factor that may occur, Dr. Youn?” I’ll say, “You could possibly die.” I’ll do every thing in my energy to forestall that, and we are going to take all of the steps vital that we will to make this as secure as doable, however it doesn’t matter what I do, like with this affected person who died after the facelift, you simply by no means know, and there’s a dying fee with elective surgical procedure, and it’s about one in 50,000 individuals who have beauty surgical procedure will die from the operation.

Now, often it’s not as a result of a surgeon tousled, it’s often anesthesia-related problems, underlying sicknesses, and that kind of factor, however there may be that danger, and in order that’s the very first thing you wanna consider. Particularly with the stomach, it’s a troublesome factor as a result of as soon as once more, at any time when I get individuals, and I get so many mothers that are available and say, “Hey, I’m serious about a tummy tuck, what do you assume?” The very first thing I’ll at all times inform them is, in the event you could be comfortable and wholesome and stay a fulfilled life with out going underneath the knife, then it is best to keep away from surgical procedure. Nevertheless, in the event you can’t, there are individuals who come to see me and they’ve had 4 children and their tummy muscle groups have been so separated, they really have again ache from it, and they only don’t really feel themselves the best way that they need to really feel, then we will discuss in regards to the specifics of the operation. There are loads of issues that we will do now although that may flip again the clock, that can provide us a few of these outcomes that we have been on the lookout for that possibly 20 years in the past, we didn’t have it, we didn’t have, and so ideally if we will attempt to level the affected person in that path, that’s what I attempt to do.

Katie: That is smart. And that’s such a fantastic balanced strategy. And it looks as if great, knowledgeable consent. So, for the individuals who nonetheless do select to undergo with it, they’ve a deeper understanding of the chance concerned, in all probability have a greater grasp on restoration and issues they’ll do to assist as properly. However to circle again to this concept of autojuvenation, I like this as a result of it’s one thing I’ve been researching, at the least the idea of with out having a phrase for it not too long ago. I did lab testing for a corporation I’m contemplating investing in, and I came upon my organic age is definitely virtually 10 years youthful than my chronological age, which was actually thrilling. And in order that’s on a mobile degree.

However I believe for lots of us, there’s additionally that aspect of the exterior going through and what our pores and skin seems to be like, particularly, particularly as ladies. And so, I believe I’d love to delve into the causes of that pores and skin getting old that’s seen and then additionally delve into a few of these issues that you simply train that may assist reverse that.

Anthony: Yeah, so thanks. So, I’d have a look at basically, I consider there are 4 main causes of getting old of our pores and skin. The primary main trigger is collagen degradation. Seventy to 80% of our pores and skin consists of collagen. Collagen is mainly what induced our pores and skin to really feel tight and to really feel sturdy. And there’s collagen in our pores and skin, in our muscle groups, in our bones, in our joints, and different components of our physique. However as we become older, actually beginning within the mid to late 20s, we lose about 1% of the thickness of the collagen of our pores and skin yearly. Girls after menopause that will increase to about 2% a 12 months. And that’s why our pores and skin will get thinner as we become older. And so, to attempt to struggle that course of is among the components of autojuvenation.

Second reason behind getting old of the pores and skin is oxidation or free radicals. Free radicals are mainly unstable molecules which are created because of simply regular metabolism. Our physique creates naturally free radicals as a byproduct of simply being alive. However we will get attacked by greater than that relying on what our life-style is. So, consuming loads of extremely processed and processed meals will improve our physique’s quantity of free radicals that it has to deal with. Fried meals additionally free radicals. Even extreme stress has been discovered to improve free radicals. And when you could have too many free radicals attacking your physique on the similar time, it will possibly truly harm the DNA in your pores and skin and that may trigger untimely getting old. In order that’s quantity two.

The third reason behind getting old is irritation. And irritation could be acute, or it may be persistent. Acute irritation can truly be a superb factor. Whenever you get a lower and your physique reacts to the lower by creating some irritation to heal that lower, that’s truly a superb factor. Typically doing sure issues, like let’s say getting a laser therapy or a chemical peel could be acute irritation and that may trigger the pores and skin truly to be younger afterwards and the collagen to be tighter and younger showing and molecularly as properly.

And so, a persistent irritation shouldn’t be a superb factor. And persistent irritation, one of many main causes of that’s sugar. And we all know sugar causes irritation since you get sugar spikes could cause insulin spikes, insulin spikes can create persistent irritation. And so, sugar is form of one of many large causes of irritation. After which the opposite reason behind irritation are superior glycation finish merchandise or AGEs. Sugar as soon as once more is a large perpetrator right here as a result of when sugar is introduced into the physique, particularly when it’s in extreme quantities, it will possibly truly bond to the collagen of our pores and skin and trigger the collagen, which usually is, the best way I described, it’s just like the logs of a log cabin. Collagen are these fibros which are usually form of caught collectively and are good and agency. However when sugar bonds to that collagen, it will possibly trigger these logs to develop into frayed and that collagen to develop into mainly kinked. And that may trigger untimely getting old. So, irritation by superior glycation finish merchandise, which is when the sugar will connect the collagen, creating these AGEs and by persistent irritation, usually by sugar spikes and insulin spikes.

After which the fourth factor, fourth reason behind getting old of our pores and skin is mainly a buildup of mobile waste. And this is among the issues that lots of people extra in conventional drugs don’t actually pay a lot consideration to. You could have dermatologists speaking about utilizing lotions on your pores and skin, however they don’t speak about attempting to get that means of autophagy revved up. And our cells, as they’re mainly present process metabolism and form of the conventional every day life, will create mobile waste. And that waste wants to be taken care of, recycled, even reused utilizing a course of known as autophagy. And that’s intracellular mainly recycling or renewal. And that solely happens if you end up not consuming. And so, taking time not to eat, to quick, can truly trigger that course of to happen by eliminating that intracellular waste. Our cells then perform extra effectively and successfully, and that is also anti-aging as properly.

Katie: That’s fascinating. And it undoubtedly leads into the query of what we will do about it, which I can guess a number of of the doable issues we will do primarily based on the best way you clarify that. Issues like fasting in a means that’s applicable for our hormones, lowering our stress degree, being conscious of what we eat, and in all probability consuming extra nourishing meals, much less extremely processed meals. However I’m certain there’s far more that goes into it from there. Based mostly on what you stated, I ponder if individuals may be considering are collagen dietary supplements a good suggestion? Are there some other dietary supplements apart from simply collagen that may help collagen and wholesome collagen matrix within the pores and skin? So, I’d love to delve into that. What are issues we will do at house that assist battle every of these totally different causes?

Anthony: Precisely. And in my guide, Younger for Life, I’ve mainly a three-week jumpstart that includes all of it. And so, the best way I have a look at it’s it’s weight loss program, it’s what to eat, when to eat, dietary supplements to take, and skincare merchandise to use. And in the event you deal with these as form of the first factor, then that may get you actually began. And we now have this 21-day jumpstart the place for 21 days, you mainly deal with these 4 issues, you possibly can actually flip again and see big adjustments in your pores and skin.

So so far as basic issues, you talked about collagen dietary supplements. Collagen dietary supplements are very controversial. I’ve bought an enormous TikTok viewers, and I posted on collagen dietary supplements, and I’ve people who find themselves saying, “Oh, my physician stated collagen dietary supplements don’t work, your physique received’t take up it, it will get damaged down within the abdomen.” The very fact is that collagen, once you purchase collagen, you need to be sure that it’s in collagen, hydrolyzed collagen peptides, basically. So, collagen is an enormous protein. And in the event you simply ingest collagen basically, your physique, sure, will break it down. Whenever you have a look at collagen dietary supplements, that’s why collagen dietary supplements, the most effective ones, are hydrolyzed collagen peptides, as a result of it takes that collagen, that massive protein, and it breaks it down into tiny little peptides and amino acids that your physique can truly take up. So, your physique does take up hydrolyzed collagen peptide dietary supplements, and there are research which have checked out it. There are a plethora of research which have proven helpful impacts in your pores and skin with collagen. Actually, I’ll simply identify one, which was a meta-analysis again in 2021 of 1,100 sufferers who took 90 days of hydrolyzed collagen dietary supplements, and they discovered a statistically vital enchancment in wrinkles, pores and skin elasticity, and pores and skin hydration. So, you’re 1,100, it is a meta-analysis, so it is a mixture of a number of research. There are randomized managed medical trials executed with collagen discovering mainly all the identical issues. And a few of them will truly take biopsies of the collagen two months after anyone begins taking collagen dietary supplements and seeing a rise within the thickness of the collagen of that pores and skin.

Katie: That’s fascinating. And does bone broth match into that class as properly? I do know there’s loads of discuss by like Dr. Kate Shanahan and others of those conventional meals that we largely have faraway from our fashionable diets that appear to be extraordinarily rejuvenating. Does bone broth match into that class as properly?

Anthony: It does. Now, apparently, bone broth makes loads of sense, however there aren’t any research that I do know of which have been carried out which have truly checked out bone broth and pores and skin. That being stated, what’s bone broth? You simmer all of the totally different, whether or not it’s the ft or the cartilage or any of these physique components, for 48 to 72 hours. The massive factor with bone broth is it’s chock stuffed with collagen, however there are loads of totally different bone broths on the market. And a method to inform whether or not it does have loads of collagen is in the event you warmth it up, it turns into mainly that soup. However in the event you let it cool, if it hardens or form of solidifies into gelatin, that gelatin is definitely collagen. And also you’ll know then that if it’s bought these form of two phases, relying on the temperature, that most probably you’ve bought a superb bone broth there. Now, bone broth is stuffed with collagen, so it does make sense that in the event you ingest it, that that ought to enhance the collagen of your pores and skin. I’d say that it ought to, however there aren’t any true scientific research that I do know of which have both confirmed it or disproven it.

Katie: Acquired it. And also you talked about TikTok. I’ll hyperlink to yours within the present notes so individuals can discover you since you do publish loads of actually useful content material on there. I do know one other factor that has appeared to go viral on TikTok basically is the significance of hydration for pores and skin look. And I’m curious your tackle this. I’m at present an enormous fan of including minerals to our hydration as a result of minerals are vital, I believe, for hormones and sleep and many different issues as properly. However are there any research or have you ever seen in follow a profit for individuals truly enhancing their hydration ranges and that benefiting their look of their pores and skin?

Anthony: I believe basically, there may be enchancment. I don’t know of any precise research which have checked out it. I imply, we additionally have a look at topicals. Whenever you have a look at, let’s say, moisturizers you’re form of doing the identical factor. You’re attempting to lock that hydration into your pores and skin. However the best way I’d describe that, I truly had an individual ask me, “Dr. Youn, you’ve talked about 4 causes of getting old of the pores and skin. Why isn’t hydration a type of, or dehydration?” And the actual fact is, is that dehydration isn’t essentially gonna age your pores and skin on a mobile degree, per se. Now, in the event you’re dehydrated, sure, your pores and skin can get drier. It may possibly look extra wrinkled. You possibly can look older. However the reality is, is that’s not technically older pores and skin on a mobile degree. So, I undoubtedly suggest general hydrating. I believe, within the basic, a glass of water is sweet, however you additionally ideally wanna form of get extra particular with it. I do assume the minerals are implausible. And also you solely want to ask skilled athletes, school athletes. So lots of them now know that it’s not simply consuming water or, God forbid, Gatorade. It’s consuming water and including these particular minerals into it will possibly actually assist forestall individuals from cramping. I truly put minerals in my water the mornings that I function. As I’m getting older, I’m discovering that my palms often will truly cramp up. And so, I began placing minerals in my water each morning, and I’ve that additionally at lunchtime after I’m between operations and stuff, and it actually helps me, too.

Katie: I used to be fascinated to learn this statistic as a result of if we give it some thought, we’re usually informed we’re 60 no matter % water, however actually as people we’re that proportion of salt water or like mineral-rich water and that’s vital for electrical communication and a lot. And I learn that an individual who lives in a sizzling local weather or an athlete will lose extra minerals in 5 years than the common individual will in a complete lifetime. And so that actually helped me notice like that is one thing to be intentional about replenishing if I’m going to maintain doing all these actions that launch all these minerals by sweat. I additionally need to circle again to autophagy and see if there are any good basic tips for kind of maximizing fasting or intermittent fasting for the pores and skin well being facet particularly.

Anthony: Yeah, one of many issues that I encourage individuals to do, as a result of some individuals will quick for weight reduction. Some individuals will quick for hormones. Some individuals will quick, they’ve bought many, many causes, however after I’m fasting purely from my perspective with my followers, my sufferers, it comes down to anti-aging. And so, one of many issues that I like to recommend, and everyone fasts a bit bit in another way. I attempt to encourage individuals to do a minimal. Now, loads of my followers will not be fairly as holistically educated as yours. And so, for me, I attempt to encourage my followers to simply begin with the fundamentals. And so, if all you begin off with is a 12-hour in a single day quick, that’s okay. You recognize, that’s an enormous begin for some individuals. Ideally attempting to get that to a 16-hour quick. So, you cease consuming at eight p.m. and then you definitely don’t eat till midday the following day is what I attempt to encourage individuals to do. A part of the 21-day jumpstart in my guide does include intermittent fasting.

One of many issues that I’ve, that we’ve seen work very well, was that on the day you break the quick, as a substitute of simply going again to your regular weight loss program, you go to an autophagy supporting weight loss program, okay? And what I imply by that’s that we do know that there are particular meals, despite the fact that you break the quick, you should still give you the chance to promote autophagy and that autophagy persevering with. And we all know that in the event you eat roughly 25 grams or extra of protein a day, that may cease autophagy alongside with carbs. So, protein and carbs actually decelerate or cease the autophagy course of. Wholesome fat, nonetheless, don’t. So, there are two varieties of meals that may truly promote autophagy that you could eat and theoretically proceed that autophagy course of throughout the remainder of that day. And people are wholesome fat like omega-Three fatty acids and monounsaturated fatty acids and meals which are stuffed with polyphenols. So basically, you’re omega-Three fatty acid wealthy meals, so chilly water fish, salmon, mackerel, trout, tuna, anchovies, that kind of factor. If you happen to have a look at monounsaturated fatty acids, then you definitely’re speaking about nuts and seeds. After which in the event you’re attempting to push polyphenol-rich meals, which polyphenols seem to additionally assist promote the autophagy course of, these are form of just like the darkish coloured fruits, like blackberries, plums, blueberries, strawberries, even black beans. And so, what we’ve executed with the 21-day jumpstart is on these days and you break the quick, as a substitute of going again to regular weight loss program, you go on this basically autophagy weight loss program to proceed that means of autophagy, basically till you could have a daily breakfast the next morning. And we discovered that to be actually efficient for individuals.

Katie: That’s fascinating. And it is smart as a result of your physique could be in a heightened sense of having the ability to take up issues and you’re placing actually wealthy, nutrient-dense issues into your physique that it might be willingly uptaking. I’ve observed too, I’ve executed loads of longer fasts, and I’ve talked on right here about that earlier than. And I discover that a number of days into a quick, I truly will begin craving these actual meals that you simply talked about, particularly as I’ve gotten extra and extra used to fasting. I’d crave anchovies and raspberries and form of odd meals. However it is smart once you clarify it that means. It’s like my physique was in all probability prepared for these meals to come again in and to give you the chance to take up them.

I do know one other controversial matter when it comes to the subject of getting old and pores and skin particularly is the subject of daylight publicity. And I’ve been an enormous proponent on right here of issues like morning daylight for circadian rhythm and hormonal stability. And I personally have some genes the place if I take vitamin D dietary supplements, my vitamin D ranges don’t change. So, I do have to get some from the solar. However we additionally know that an excessive amount of solar, in fact, can prematurely age the pores and skin. So, I’m curious your tackle that and what you discover is an efficient stability. I have a tendency to simply put on a hat if I’m within the solar, however I like the sensation of sunshine on the remainder of my pores and skin. So how do you assist individuals or what do you advise on that?

Anthony: So, I believe that like with loads of issues in life, moderation is the important thing. I’ve mates of mine who’re dermatologists who each morning, it could be cloudy out and they might be sitting in a basement all day, however they’ll put their sunscreen on. After which I’ve holistic well being mates of mine who’re anti-sunscreen. I’ll let you know for me, I believe that there’s a good comfortable medium there someplace. Primary, doctor, particularly as a plastic surgeon, I’ve seen horrific pores and skin most cancers points in sufferers of mine and even mates of mine the place they get a pores and skin most cancers, they get Mohs surgical procedure, and half their nostril is gone afterwards. And so they come to me and I’m like, how do I reconstruct this? I imply, in the event you get a pores and skin most cancers in your face, it may be completely devastating. And so, you wanna do what you possibly can to forestall that, particularly in the event you’ve bought lighter coloured pores and skin and you’re at larger danger.

So undoubtedly I encourage individuals general to put on sunblock, at the least an SPF of 30, particularly once you’re gonna be out within the solar. Nevertheless, I additionally know dwelling in Detroit, how therapeutic it’s to get the solar in your face, to see the daylight within the morning, and to actually get that solar. I imply, we escape to the Caribbean usually each winter as a result of man, it’s simply powerful right here within the wintertime. So, I do assume that there’s a cheerful medium there. I believe that monitoring your vitamin D ranges, I believe is unquestionably vital. Ideally sporting the sunscreen, particularly in the event you’re gonna be out, however on the similar time, additionally getting that solar that you simply want on your personal psychological well being and on your religious well being and on your interior well being as properly. So, I believe that there’s a cheerful medium there. I don’t assume you could have to go excessive a method or one other.

Katie: That’s a fantastic perspective. And also you talked about collagen dietary supplements. I’m curious if there are some other dietary supplements that you simply suggest basically. I do know there’s a very personalised facet to any type of supplementation, however I’d guess there are some which are thought-about typically supportive of pores and skin well being getting old.

Anthony: Yeah, so one of many components of the 21-day jumpstart is a quite simple complement routine that I like to recommend mainly for everyone. So, the primary one is gonna be the collagen complement. The second is gonna be a multivitamin. The third one is gonna be omega-Three fatty acids. So as soon as once more, utilizing one thing that’s high-quality omega-3s, I believe it’s tremendous vital. What we do know is that these are wholesome fat that may truly create a discount of irritation contained in the physique. And one of many 4 predominant causes of pores and skin getting old is irritation. And that’s one of many large issues that you are able to do to struggle that. So, omega-Three fatty acids, ideally from fish. If you happen to’re vegan, then go with the allergy base, that’s effective.

After which a every day probiotic, I believe is essential. Extra and extra we’re studying that there’s a connection between the intestine and our pores and skin. And there’s a gut-skin axis that we’re studying extra and extra about. And there are precise research now which are correlating sure points or circumstances that you’ve got within the intestine, like let’s say inflammatory or IBS with inflammatory pores and skin points. And so, taking a every day probiotic, the concept clearly is, and you’ve talked about this in your present earlier than, however helpful micro organism in your intestine, the well being of the intestine will actually present within the well being of your pores and skin.

After which the ultimate factor I like to recommend is simply taking an antioxidant complement of quite a lot of antioxidants. We all know that our produce, our fruits and greens, wouldn’t have the identical vitamin now than they did 50 years in the past. There truly was a research, I’m unsure in the event you’ve talked about this in your podcast earlier than, however they really checked out our produce from the years 1950 to 1999. So, 49 years’ value of produce. And so they checked out how a lot dietary worth the produce had yearly. And that dietary worth decreased yearly in six predominant vitamins. And people embody vitamin C, protein, and iron. And so undoubtedly as soon as once more, taking let’s say a every day antioxidant complement may also help with these tyes of potential nutrient deficiencies.

Katie: And I like that you simply deal with the inner facet in such an in depth means. I really feel like usually within the skincare dialog, the inner facet will get missed. And I’ve had this dialog equally within the oral healthcare house with creating my toothpaste and all of the analysis that went into that and realizing we consider the mouth as kind of this remoted a part of our physique, but it surely’s so interconnected. And it’s not simply holding our enamel clear by brushing and flossing, which is in fact vital, but it surely’s issues just like the fat-soluble vitamin content material in our physique and the mineral content material in our physique and how these issues are interacting in our saliva to give you the chance to create mineral stability in our mouth.

And I’d guess there’s additionally this facet when it comes to pores and skin well being, the place all these items we now have in our physique, in fact, are gonna feed our pores and skin from the within out. After which in fact, there are issues we will do from the skin in. So, when it comes to skincare, what are some good basic tips for individuals to pay attention to to form of battle these indicators of getting old?

Anthony: And I believe what you stated hits it proper on the nail. Dermatologists historically focus simply on skincare and holistic well being specialists focus simply on the intestine. And I’ve mates of mine who’re like, “Oh, you need your pores and skin to be higher, focus in your intestine.” And it’s like, properly, you are able to do each. You possibly can focus in your intestine, and you should use the best skincare. And ideally that’s the way you need to deal with it. And I don’t know of lots of people speaking about each. So, I respect asking a query.

What I often suggest for people who find themselves saying, “Hey, what do I do for a easy skincare routine that I do know is gonna work?” And also you don’t have to spend loads of time. You don’t have to do a 12-step Korean skincare routine. If you happen to maintain it to the fundamentals, that technically is sufficient. So, each morning you wanna cleanse your pores and skin with a cleanser applicable on your pores and skin kind. If you happen to’ve bought oily pores and skin, then ideally a foaming-type cleanser will assist to scale back a few of that extra oil. If you happen to’ve bought dry pores and skin, then use a milky or hydrating cleanser.

After which after that, you wanna use an antioxidant serum. Vitamin C is the commonest that almost all skincare corporations have. And the concept is you wanna struggle off these free radicals. As soon as once more, one of many 4 predominant causes of pores and skin getting old, free radicals, oxidation; antioxidants struggle that. So, utilizing an antioxidant serum each morning could be very useful. A bonus is in the event you mix vitamin C and vitamin E serums, and a few of them include each of them in a single, they’re discovered to be synergistic in research and combating free radicals. So, in the event you wanna take that to the following degree, not only a vitamin C, do a vitamin C and E serum within the morning.

After which I’d observe that with a sunscreen. As soon as once more, we talked about form of moderation. If you happen to want a bit little bit of solar, by all means do what you want to do on your personal bodily and psychological well being. And that’s all you could have to technically do within the morning: cleanse, serum, antioxidant serum, and sunscreen.

At evening, you wanna cleanse your pores and skin. If you happen to solely cleanse your pores and skin as soon as a day, make sure that it’s at the least at evening since you gotta do away with the day’s value of mud, air pollution, grime, and your make-up particularly, okay? Undoubtedly use a cleanser. Some individuals even double cleanse. We’re utilizing oil cleanser first to do away with form of the grime and the oil and the make-up, and then observe that up with your basic cleanser afterwards.

And then you definitely wanna apply an anti-aging moisturizer or cream. The one that almost all plastic surgeons and dermatologists suggest, the one which I like to recommend as a place to begin is a retinol. Retinol is a type of vitamin A and might be probably the most scientifically studied anti-aging ingredient that there’s. And the concept behind that isn’t solely does it struggle getting old, but it surely additionally causes the pores and skin to flip over, it helps to scale back darkish spots, and it will possibly even doubtlessly reverse early pre-skin cancers. So, it’s an enormous deal. And in the event you decide one anti-aging cream, then I’d decide a retinol. And most skincare merchandise have some kind of retinol in them. Of their, let’s say, even cream.

If you happen to wanna apply moisturizer on high of that, be happy. You recognize, loads of us, we grew up with our mothers making use of chilly cream at evening. You don’t have to deal with chilly cream. A variety of these chilly lotions I’m not an enormous fan of due to all of the perfume and all that that may be irritating to your pores and skin. However in the event you wanna apply moisturizer on high of that, relying on how your pores and skin is, then be happy to do this. However as soon as once more, holding in thoughts, like hydrating with water, that’s not gonna be anti-aging on a mobile degree, however could be extra for consolation.

After which the ultimate factor is each three days or so, you wanna ideally exfoliate your pores and skin. So, with both a bodily exfoliator, which generally is a little scrub, or you are able to do a chemical exfoliation with an alpha hydroxy acid. And technically that’s it. So, morning, you cleanse, you apply an antioxidant serum, and then a sunscreen, and the night you cleanse, apply an anti-aging cream like a retinol, moisturizer as wanted, and then twice per week or so exfoliate your pores and skin.

Katie: And as you have been explaining that, and that was a fantastic listing, by the best way, I used to be considering too, these are additionally nutrient deficiencies that usually exist in People, particularly internally. Like we’ve seen our ranges of vital issues like vitamin C, like vitamin A decline, particularly with age and particularly with the way you defined our meals has misplaced nutrient density over time. So, it is smart, such as you’re saying, take a multifaceted strategy, nourish your self from the within out to give your physique these vitamins, and then additionally apply them to the pores and skin. And then you definitely’re form of hitting each side of it and giving your physique the most effective likelihood at, such as you stated, this isn’t that we’re doing one thing to the physique, it’s serving to the physique do what it already is aware of how to do.

Anthony: And that’s precisely what I imply by the entire means of autojuvenation. It’s taking all of these issues that possibly no person has actually put all collectively and saying, “Hey, you already know what, we will put all this collectively and we will flip again the clock, really feel higher, look higher, have higher vitality.” And in the event you wanna take another steps, you already know, there are different issues you are able to do like pink mild remedy at house. That’s an effective way to additionally assist to flip again the clock of your pores and skin. Some individuals do dermaplaning, which basically is a therapy we do within the workplace the place you take away a layer of useless pores and skin cells, and you are able to do that at house. There’s a lot that you are able to do that doesn’t entail injections or surgical procedure.

Katie: I like that. That was going to be one among my follow-up questions as properly was, is pink mild helpful? It’s one thing I’ve experimented with. I believe even helpful for thyroid well being for me personally was a factor I observed. And now there are such a lot of house units which are far more inexpensive than they used to be and that may make that, such as you stated, a house therapy as properly.

Anthony: And there are research, a variety of research that do present helpful results of pink mild remedy remedies on the standard of your pores and skin. The query, the research haven’t regarded on the actual mechanism. We expect that which will assist with the mitochondria and serving to with general having your cells basically be extra superpowered basically. We don’t know 100% for certain if that’s what causes the anti-aging, the bodily advantages so far as in your pores and skin, however we do know that there are a number of research that present that the pores and skin does look younger in the event you do common pink mild remedy remedies on it.

Katie: Nice to know. I’m additionally curious, one other factor that appears to be circulating TikTok is the pattern of doing various kinds of like lymphatic or facial therapeutic massage, the place I’ve executed for years dry brushing on the remainder of my physique, not a lot my face. I’m curious if there’s any significance to that that you simply’ve seen in your work. I’d guess these are at the least in all probability not dangerous practices, whether or not or not they’re tremendous efficient may be up for debate. I simply observed, as an illustration, if I do lymphatic therapeutic massage on my face earlier than mattress, I have a tendency to sleep very well. And if I do dry brushing within the morning, I get a burst of vitality. However past that, do you are feeling like there’s something helpful to it?

Anthony: So, I believe what you get with each of these is you do get the, mainly you get your lymph channels extra energetic. And so, we now have lymph channels in our physique, for individuals don’t fairly perceive what that’s, is, you already know, we’ve bought blood vessels, we now have veins and arteries that transfer blood, however there’s truly a separate system of form of like, like vessels basically which are known as lymph and lymph basically strikes immune cells and excessive protein kind of fluid by our physique. And so, once we develop, let’s say we now have irritation of the physique, you already know, both from an harm or generally it’s from consuming the unsuitable meals and stuff like that, then you possibly can develop fluid that form of builds up and it builds up and you don’t do away with that fluid. You possibly can’t push it out by the arteries and veins. You push it out by the lymphatic system. And that’s what lots of people like with dry brushing. The rationale why you don’t dry brush from the within out is since you need to push that fluid in direction of the path of the lymphatics. After I do surgical procedure on individuals, we attempt to have individuals therapeutic massage in direction of the path of these lymphatics to assist transfer that fluid by. So, utilizing, let’s say a gua sha system, utilizing, let’s say a jade curler, that’s what that’s doing helps to transfer that fluid by. Now, in the event you add that with sure issues like coolness, lots of people put their jade curler within the fridge or the freezer, then it’s also possible to assist to shrink among the pores and skin down quickly.

As soon as once more, we’re not speaking a couple of long-term kind of a change, however you possibly can see some good enhancements. So, in the event you’re going to go to, let’s say, a category reunion and you need to perform a little gua sha prior to going out, that may assist snatch your neckline a bit bit extra and aid you really feel higher about your look then, by all means, that’s good. Dry brushing, although, additionally provides on high of that, although, the good thing about exfoliation of our pores and skin. You recognize, Koreans have executed that kind of factor for lots of of years, however they’re not good. You recognize, in the event you’ve ever been to a Korean spa, it’s not only a dry brush. They take what basically seems to be like sandpaper and they only rub your physique from head to toe with it. Some individuals find it irresistible, some individuals hate it as a result of it’s painful, however afterward, your pores and skin’s gonna really feel clean as a child’s butt.

Katie: I’ve gotten to have that have as soon as and it was fairly the expertise, however I don’t assume the tip of my grownup life has ever felt so delicate because it did after that. So, I’d be within the class of people that find it irresistible. Curious from a extra superior perspective too, I believe all of these items are so foundational and vital for everybody.

I usually speak about this; the easy issues can usually be missed due to their simplicity. Even when somebody desires to do the extra superior biohacks, I at all times say get mild dialed in first, get sleep dialed in, get vitamin dialed in, as a result of anything you do goes to be simpler anyway. However don’t simply soar to the costly shiny objects first, since you’re going to get a greater bang on your buck in the event you do the foundational issues first. So, I’d guess there’s very a lot an analogous factor when it comes to pores and skin remedies. However I do know that at the least from the web, I’ve seen there’s dozens at the least choices of extra superior skincare remedies individuals can do both at house or in workplace. And I’d love to hear your tackle those which are truly efficient and value it or possibly any that aren’t actually value it and or possibly extra dangerous to keep away from.

Anthony: Yeah, so I imply, the very first thing is after I have a look at it’s a bang on your buck. And the issue that we now have in beauty drugs proper now’s that there are such a lot of units on the market. And the system corporations will promote their units to customers attempting to form of stress medical doctors and med spots to purchase them saying, “Oh, in the event you use this, then you definitely’re going to get extra individuals within the door.” And it turns into a state of affairs the place if all you could have is a hammer, every thing seems to be like a nail, and you could have to be as a client, you have to pay attention to this.

So, in the event you’re going to get a beauty therapy executed, you need to just remember to go to a spot that has a plethora of choices obtainable for you, so that they don’t simply select the one system they’ve that they use on everyone. They select a tool that’s going to work greatest for you. I’d begin with the fundamentals. If you happen to’re new to the cosmic house and you say, “Hey, look, I’ve been doing every thing that you simply’re speaking about, Dr. Youn. I’m doing the weight loss program stuff. I’m intermittent fasting. I’m utilizing the skincare and dietary supplements, however I’ve bought these spots that simply received’t go away. And so they actually, I really feel like I’d like to clear my pores and skin up. What are you able to do this’s not going to be costly or tremendous painful?” Very first thing I’d suggest could be to begin on a brightening cream. Brightening cream that incorporates kojic acid, niacinamide, and/or licorice root extract. That may assist with the darkish spots from the within out. However in order for you to take that to the following degree, contemplate IPL remedies, Intense Pulse Gentle. This is sort of a laser. The factor with IPL that’s nice is that the units will not be tremendous costly to buy, and loads of locations have them. It’s chemical free. So, on your listeners who’re actually wanting to attempt to keep away from extra chemical compounds within the atmosphere, that is actually simply mild that may truly zap the darkish spots, trigger them to flip darker, and inside a couple of week, they begin to slup off. You mix that with a superb pure brightening cream and that may actually goal these spots properly. In order that’s for spots.

If you happen to’re on the lookout for general simply facial rejuvenation, microneedling is an effective way to do this. Microneedling, I believe, is big with autojuvenation as a result of it basically is utilizing your physique’s personal therapeutic mechanisms to truly flip again the clock. I discussed earlier, collagen in our pores and skin, they’re form of just like the logs of a log cabin. They’re these fibrils that stick collectively. And as we become older, they develop into extra kinked, and they begin to crumble a bit. And any of the remedies that we do, whether or not it’s laser, chemical peels, microneedling, we’re inflicting a managed trauma to the pores and skin. That trauma to the collagen causes the collagen because it heals to heal again in a tighter style. Basically like placing these logs again tightly into that log cabin. When the therapy is so aggressive that it’s too damaging, then you may get scarring, and we don’t wanna go that far, clearly.

Microneedling is a superb therapy that could be very cheap in contrast to different varieties of remedies as a result of the system that we use to do it actually prices us possibly $3,000 or $4,000 to buy, which within the scheme of beauty drugs in contrast to $200,000 for a laser shouldn’t be that dangerous. And what that does, it makes tiny little pokes within the floor of the pores and skin, creating that acute irritation, inflicting the collagen to tighten up. If you happen to wanna take that one step additional, then you possibly can apply PRP to the floor of your pores and skin and that incorporates development components. PRP mainly, what we do is we draw your blood, we spin it down, take away the platelets, that are chock stuffed with your personal pure development components. After which once you do the microneedling, mainly these tiny little holes which are made by these tiny little needles go to the deeper pores and skin. If you happen to do it in a short time after the microneedling and you apply that PRP on the floor of your pores and skin, it can seep into these tiny little holes to basically rejuvenate your pores and skin from the within out. And that is all pure. It’s simply utilizing your physique’s personal regenerative processes. And that additionally, as soon as once more, in contrast to 1000’s of {dollars} for a laser or a deep, deep chemical peel, a lot, a lot cheaper.

Katie: That’s nice to know. And I do know you go into much more depth in your guide, which I would like to make sure that we talked about, it’s known as Younger for Life. And I’ll put that hyperlink within the present notes as properly, since you get very detailed and you could have that entire, I consider, 21-day plan in there. And so, there’s loads of actually detailed information in there.

However I’d additionally love to get your kind of speedy hearth tackle among the extra controversial issues associated to cosmetic surgery and all that goes with it. I assume the primary one could be issues like laser hair elimination since you talked about lasers are dearer. I do know there’s ache concerned with that one, good or dangerous or detached so far as impact on the physique and what you suggest or don’t there.

Anthony: I believe that may be very useful for sure individuals, particularly in the event you’ve bought points with folliculitis, in the event you’ve bought points with ingrown hairs, then that may be very useful. Usually, we suggest going to a dermatologist or plastic surgeon’s workplace, however there at the moment are at-home laser hair elimination units which have develop into fairly efficient. And so, if, let’s say you reside in an space and you don’t have entry to a health care provider, look into a few of these at-home laser hair units, as a result of it may be, as soon as once more, fairly efficient.

Katie: And so far as I do know, there’s none that work very well for mild coloured hair. That’s the draw back for me.

Anthony: That’s the problem, is you want pigment within the hair as a result of the precise lasers goal colours. Mainly, they create warmth primarily based off of the colour. And so most laser hair elimination units, the colour is brown. And so, it really works very well with mild pores and skin, darkish hair. If you happen to’ve bought mild pores and skin and mild hair doesn’t work as properly, sadly. And also you don’t actually have any, apart from electrolysis, there aren’t some other nice choices for it sadly.

Katie: Okay, that’s what I believed, however good to know and confirm. The following semi extra controversial one I’d ask about is Botox. I do know that is undoubtedly common amongst loads of the age teams, at the least the people who find themselves listening. It’s one thing I’ve at all times had loads of hesitation round, simply having recovered from autoimmune illness. I’m not a fan of placing something that my physique might not acknowledge in my physique, however I do know many ladies do go for Botox. So, what’s your tackle Botox and if execs, cons, what to weigh?

Anthony: So, it’s the preferred beauty therapy within the historical past of the world. About 5 million or extra individuals bear Botox yearly. You might not have identified this as we discuss. I’ve some like proper right here. And what Botox does is it’s a neurotoxin. It’s one of the highly effective toxins within the universe that we all know of. However in the event you inject within the tiniest quantity within the muscle groups, it can forestall the nerve transmission to these muscle groups and trigger these muscle groups not to work for about three or 4 months. And in the event you inject it into wrinkles, just like the entrance lens between the eyebrows, the brow, or the crow’s ft, it will possibly trigger these wrinkles, basically, these muscle groups, to then chill out and these wrinkles to clean out.

There are a handful of individuals on-line who do really feel that they’ve had systemic reactions to Botox, to the place they’ve had sure varieties of sicknesses. I’ve executed loads of analysis into it. In my follow, we in all probability handled 5,000 – 10,000 individuals minimal with Botox. I’ve by no means had a serious complication from it of these 5,000, 10,000 individuals, not one. However we do know that Botox, when it’s injected, can truly get into the cerebral spinal fluid. There have been research which have checked out mice and discovering that. So, you already know, I believe with something, it’s gonna be a danger profit evaluation. I’m not a fan of younger individuals getting Botox as prophylaxis. I believe that’s loopy. There are people who find themselves encouraging that. I believe that in the event you’ve bought these traces, they actually hassle you, you wanna attempt it, begin small, begin within the frown traces between the brows, and you possibly can at all times add extra later in order for you.

Katie: That is smart. And I’m definitely not one to choose if anyone chooses to do this. The one I’d say doesn’t seem to be a fantastic concept to me. And hopefully this isn’t a pattern that’s catching on. I’ve seen individuals injecting it into their lure muscle groups to make their neck look thinner. And to me, activating a complete muscle doesn’t seem to be the most effective concept.

Anthony: Yeah, I imply that you already know what that’s, is that there are medical doctors on the market who’re utilizing the Barbie phenomenon to attempt to become profitable. And so, the concept is it’s Lure Tox or Barbie Tox is what they’re calling it to attempt to get a Barbie neck. There’s at all times medical doctors on the market, sadly, who’re attempting to manipulate social media and their followers to get stuff that actually isn’t all that useful for them. And a part of it’s to allow them to get within the information. You recognize, it’s a clout factor. Persons are doing it for clout. And it’s unlucky. You recognize, it’s the identical factor with a few of them recommending like Barbie makeovers. If you happen to do all these operations to appear to be Barbie. And it’s simply because the Barbie film was so common.

However ultimately, with traditional surgical procedure, much less is extra. I inform my sufferers, you by no means remorse traditional surgical procedure that you simply didn’t do. You solely remorse the work that you simply did that you simply possibly shouldn’t have had executed. So actually at all times give it some thought. And I’m a plastic surgeon. I do loads of surgical procedure, however the factor is you need to use surgical procedure at all times as a final resort. And sadly, that’s not the case for lots of medical doctors on the market. It’s very disappointing.

Katie: And one other much more controversial one, in fact, is breast implants. And I’ve had individuals on right here, each medical doctors and individuals who have skilled signs like a breast implant sickness. So, I’m curious your tackle that and any suggestions you could have earlier than, throughout, after, or basically.

Anthony: So yeah, I used to be one of many first plastic surgeons to go public that I consider breast implant sickness is actual. And I had loads of my colleagues very offended with me. You recognize, I went by my conventional coaching and was informed dogma in my coaching is that breast implants don’t make individuals sick. And loads of plastic surgeons regarded on the moratorium being lifted on silicone breast implants again in 2006, 2007, as being proof that implants are secure.

The very fact is, once you have a look at literature exterior of the cosmetic surgery scientific literature, you have a look at the rheumatology literature, and there are undoubtedly research and surveys and case reviews of people that do get sick from their implants. And once you take implants out of anyone who believes they’ve breast implant sickness, about 55 to 85 % of them, their signs will enhance with these implants taken out. I do consider and I do know loads of holistic well being influencers who’ve breast implants, a few of them we’re mates with, widespread mates with, and they’re wholesome with them, however that’s not everyone. And I believe it’s a person course of. We want to know extra about it and sufferers want to be told of it. The horrible factor, although, is I do know that there are plastic surgeons on the market telling sufferers that after they come to them and I’ve sufferers inform me this, I went to see this physician, I informed him I believe my implants are making me sick and he stated I want to see a psychiatrist. Not get my implants out. I want to see a psychiatrist. It’s maddening.

Katie: Wow. Effectively, thanks for clearing that up. And I’m glad to hear on so many of those ranges that there are such a lot of choices individuals can do even from house that may make a noticeable distinction. I believe that’s actually encouraging information. And I like that it comes from you being able to suggest each and having the ability to do the extra superior procedures as properly that you simply’re nonetheless the voice of claiming, and there’s these items you are able to do that aren’t surgical and surgical procedure won’t be the reply. I like such a balanced viewpoint. And I like that you’ve got been this voice for therefore many ladies. And a few questions I like to ask for the tip of interviews. The primary being if there’s a guide or variety of books which have had a profound influence on you personally, and in that case, what they’re and why.

Anthony: So, I learn the guide, How Not to Die, and I’m not vegan or plant-based, however I actually discovered that one modified my outlook, and actually helped to push me to write the guide that I wrote, Younger for Life. And the explanation why I believe I discovered it so fascinating is as a result of it was so primarily based in research and references. And that was one thing that for me, I believed, you already know what, if I’m gonna write a guide, I wanna have my guide be as well-researched as his. Now, as soon as once more, I’m not plant primarily based. And among the issues that Dr. Greger has in his guide, I disagree with, however I do admire that he did go the additional route and that every thing in there has proof behind it, as a result of there are such a lot of books on the market that simply put individuals’s opinions on the market and there’s no precise proof behind it. And the truth that he does embody all these references and every thing, to me, that was an enormous deal.

Katie: I’ll embody a hyperlink to that within the present notes as properly. And lastly, any parting recommendation for the listeners that may very well be associated to the issues we’ve talked about or solely unrelated recommendation.

Anthony: Yeah, my predominant recommendation is that you could look and really feel your greatest with out going underneath the knife. If you happen to simply stick with the rules of autojuvenation: weight loss program, what to eat, when to eat, dietary supplements, and skincare. If you happen to simply stick with that, you’re going to be forward of 98% of individuals. If you happen to add a few of these different issues we talked about, pink mild remedy, dermaplaning, in the event you listen to your sleep, the best varieties of train, scale back your environmental exposures, and you’ll be even farther. So, deal with these issues first. If you happen to’re serious about cosmetic surgery, do that different stuff first earlier than you go see a plastic surgeon as a result of hopefully chances are you’ll discover that by doing all this, your want to see a plastic surgeon goes away.

Katie: Effectively, I respect all these items that you simply’ve shared with us on this podcast, like I stated, I do know there’s a lot extra in your guide, so extremely suggest you guys examine that out. There’s an absolute wealth of data in there. Thanks a lot on your time. This has been such a enjoyable dialog and I’m so grateful we bought you coming.

Anthony: Thanks a lot, Katie, respect it.

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