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Katie: Welcome to the Wellness Mama Podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellnesse with an E on the top, my new private care line. I’m again in the present day with Eileen Durfee, who’s a former nuclear energy plant engineer and who has battled by quite a bit of her personal well being issues to seek out stunning options. And on this one, we go deep on a unique subject. I’ll hyperlink to our first episode within the present notes at wellnessmama.fm. However she has discovered a very modern answer that helps misalignment of spinal posture that’s associated to again and neck issues, particularly issues attributable to us residing in a contemporary society, and slouching over, and wanting down at telephones approach an excessive amount of. And we go deep into the causes and the options on this episode. The excellent news is it’s simpler than you’d anticipate. And he or she says we must always by no means do sit-ups once more. In order that and way more on this episode. Let’s leap in. Eileen, welcome. Thanks for being right here once more.

Eileen: Oh, effectively, thanks for having me.

Katie: I feel this subject is particularly vital in in the present day’s world when issues like again and neck ache are on the rise, I’m guessing, partly as a result of we’re all observing a telephone as an alternative of maintaining our head the place it’s imagined to be. However we’re gonna delve into all of that in the present day. So, to start out broad, stroll us by, I do know that you simply’ve executed some deep-dive analysis on this, however what are some of the causes of again and neck ache?

Eileen: Properly, the principle factor is gravity. Folks don’t understand how a lot power your physique spends to carry you upright. And the principle drawback comes into play when you consider the event of the spinal column. You already know, when infants are born, they’re, like, curled up in a C form, and they will’t stroll as a result of they don’t have curvature of their backbone. So, you realize, they begin crawling and you begin seeing the event of curves. However it actually takes 18 years to develop correct curvature and ossification or the hardness, the density of the bones. However guess what? Our athletic coaching system for the youth just isn’t doing the right workout routines to offer everybody ideally suited curvature. Most kids usually are not getting it, then, you realize, you might have repetitive accidents. I imply, I might go on and on about why, you realize, in America, simply on low again ache alone, we spend $100 billion a yr. And quite a bit of these, you realize, treatments, so to talk, surgical procedure, and this and that, don’t all the time work. How many individuals have had again ache? How many individuals have you learnt have again ache or continual again issues that they will’t get rid of? It’s an epidemic.

Katie: Yeah, completely. And positively, there’s a lot info on this. And I’m guessing there’s gonna be, like, some very clear and simple issues that folks simply haven’t thought of. Like, as an illustration, I interviewed somebody as soon as, it was quite a bit about shoulder ache. And he really helpful…he mentioned if folks would simply grasp by their arms for 3 minutes a day, even when it was damaged up in little chunks however grasp, that may remove so many of the causes of shoulder ache. Like, half of that is that we’re not shifting how people had been meant to maneuver. And so it appears like that’s, variety of, the identical factor that’s happening with our again in our neck, proper?

Eileen: Sure. Sure, it’s. And, you realize, we’ll floss and we’ll brush our tooth, those we wanna hold. However what are we doing to take care of correct curvature or get it when you by no means had it? You already know, we’ve these, you realize, issues which can be easy, such as you say, that we might do each day that may make an enormous distinction. And that’s as a result of of my complete historical past of what I went by from the time I used to be born to various things that occurred to me why that is so main for me as a result of, you realize, everyone’s drained. Properly, let’s scale back the quantity of power your physique has to spend simply to exist in gravity. There are some nice issues that folks can implement to make a distinction of their lives.

Katie: So, let’s begin speaking by some of these issues. Like I mentioned, I’m certain that there’s in all probability, like, the two-part factor. One, we have to cease doing the issues which can be inflicting the issue and in all probability we have to combine some issues which can be gonna assist repair the issue. So stroll us by some of these specifics.

Eileen: Okay. Properly, there’s quite a bit of ahead head posture happening. You already know, at the same time as early as kids with heavy backpacks on their again and simply focusing down at gadgets and every little thing else, when you might have your head down, the drive of gravity is big and your muscular tissues tighten up. And so, what do folks do? They could go get a therapeutic massage to get rid of a decent muscle or they may take Advil or muscle relaxers or, you realize, use CBD or no matter it’s. However the important thing issue you’re not taking a look at is the form in gravity. As a result of when you have right curvature, there’ll be, you realize, like 20 instances much less the quantity of gravitational drive activating the set off of the muscular tissues. So, similar to brushing and flossing your tooth, we have to do the neck flexion train. That can strengthen two muscular tissues that everybody forgets. You already know, we’re physique muscle overload. We’re doing all of these workout routines to strengthen our muscular tissues however we’re not wanting particularly on the muscular tissues that induce correct curvature. There’s the multifidus and the inside spinalis muscular tissues that we have to work. And we’ve to do two issues concurrently to be able to activate these.

So there’s one explicit train we developed, what we name the neck shaper, to place this facepiece in your face like a masks and it has a bar you could add resistance along with your arms. However you possibly can actually do a free physique train the place you arise and look as much as the ceiling along with your eyes. It’s naturally gonna deliver your head all the way in which again in order that your brow and chin are, like, near horizontal to the ceiling. So, when you lookup, you realize, so that you’re enjoyable and that’s the place the place of the train begins. So then you possibly can take your arms, your fingers, put them in your cheekbones, and start placing stress. And then you definately simply merely, like, you’re gonna nod your head, you deliver your chin right down to a stage place, you realize, you’re placing that light drive towards the face. After which as soon as your chin is stage, you mainly loosen up the neck muscular tissues. You retain the drive in your cheeks along with your fingers and you simply push your chin again, maintaining, you realize, your head again, maintaining your chin stage. And while you try this…you arise while you’re doing this. While you try this correctly, your backbone’s really gonna change into extra versatile the place you really start creating a curve within the decrease again.

And that is wonderful with this neck shaper, you realize, you possibly can usually begin out, you realize, even with out the piece of tools, you possibly can, like, do six of these each hour, simply gently. And there’s folks with bulged discs, you realize, neck ache that radiates clear down into their arms and every little thing else. However that’s only a easy train that they will do in the course of the day but in addition do issues like guarantee that your laptop monitor or your gadget is able the place you possibly can, you realize, hold your head to the purpose the place your chin is stage and you have a look at it. You’re not cranking your neck to lookup. You’re not cranking your neck to look down. I imply, the explanation why we’ve the neck shaper the place you possibly can actually, you realize, put some drive and develop these neck muscular tissues, you realize, is in order that similar to you eat meals and meals will get between your tooth, you realize, while you floss it, you realize, brush, then every little thing’s again to regular, that’s the identical factor. Your physique is supposed to be versatile to look down, lookup. However once we’re not doing the issues to strengthen the multifidus and inside spinalis muscular tissues, then you definately progressively lose the curvature, and then muscular tissues get tight, and then ache develops.

Now, the neat factor about our backbone is that if we’ve the right curvature, there’s these bones on the again, they’re referred to as aspects, however what they do is that they interlock. When you might have the curvature of your backbone, the adjoining vertebrae have this bone-on-bone contact that’s tremendous sturdy. It’s like when you might have the curvature, your backbone can’t exit of whack as a result of it’s bone-on-bone that protects you from drifting out of form. However if you end up reaching, head down, or no matter, then these bones on the again don’t make contact. After which the muscular tissues which can be maintaining you from having a slipped disc or a vertebra that goes out of whack is that multifidus and that inside spinalis muscle. And so we have to have drive approaching prime of us. It’s thought-about anterior drive. That’s your arms in your cheekbones pushing, that’s anterior drive.

Then you must have some posterior help. And, you realize we’ve obtained an entire line of spinal health tools popping out which have a specialised groove in it so you possibly can arch your neck over it. And the little pointy bone on the again of your backbone known as a spinous. So if we will let that spinous float, not contact something, and then the perimeters of your vertebrae, these edges, these are referred to as the transverse course of, then they catch these shapes. It’s variety of like, you realize, a prepare follows a prepare observe. It’s like, we wanna do the identical factor for the backbone. So we wanna have a selected form beneath, then we wanna have drive on prime, and then we wanna have muscular co-contraction. So this neck flexion that I described is simply vital for anyone who’s utilizing any variety of digital gadget.

After which we’ve the neck shaper now. I imply, you possibly can even lay down on a flat bench, use some train bands on the bar on the neck shaper. You already know, you possibly can wad up a towel beneath your neck and you possibly can do the neck flexion train that approach. There’s only a lot of issues that impression your physique, however like, if our neck is, like, ahead, you realize, between our hips, you realize, our torso and our head, if it’s a grand complete of four inches ahead…you realize, usually while you arise, the hamstrings have zero muscle effort. However let’s say from my waist to my head, I’m four inches ahead over the middle of my hips, that hamstring muscle might be firing and tight, resisting 983 kilos. That’s mathematically calculated. So anyone can arise proper now listening to this podcast, arise the place you assume you’re straight, are your hamstrings tight? If they’re, you do not need the mechanical benefit, your physique’s spending power holding you in gravity that it doesn’t have to and you’re carrying off edges of your bones, your scrunching discs, and inflicting untimely growing older. There’s all types of issues to do with gravity. Gravity just isn’t your pal except you might have the appropriate form.

Katie: That’s actually astounding. So over 900 kilos of stress, simply in phrases of misalignment. What about…? As a result of definitely, like again ache appears to be on the rise and neck ache as effectively. And I see folks, like, on Instagram utilizing differing kinds of again braces or these, variety of, like, contraptions that pull their shoulders again. What do you consider these? Does that assist counteract the neck misalignment in any respect?

Eileen: Properly, it mainly treats the symptom. Like, you bought a flat tire as a result of there’s a nail in it, and you refuse to take the nail out, however you’ll carry a compressed air can round to pump up your tire on a regular basis to take care of the gradual leak. That’s what I feel these issues are for. You already know, it’s good to go get a therapeutic massage, you realize, get rid of the tight muscular tissues but it surely’s like a bent crankshaft within the motor. You already know, I imply, for correct tolerances for every little thing to work, there’s sure alignment, you realize, that should occur. And it’s mainly the curvature within the backbone that offers you the mechanical benefit. So, for correct correction, for therapeutic sooner from accidents, stopping accidents, what you could do is purchase the form that’s best in gravity as a result of there’s like three curves within the backbone. You bought your neck curve, you realize, then your thoracic space curves again and then to a low again curve and then the sacral curve. So you might have these three curves that you could correctly develop and preserve.

And, you realize, you gotta do what you gotta do. You already know, when you gotta do some traction, when you, you realize, do some issues that briefly relieve the ache, however individuals are gonna understand that these sorts of issues are like having a ball and chain round your ankle. You’re all the time having to do them since you all the time return to the purpose, you realize, the place you had been at. And so, it’s actually vital to have the leverage factors. Like, if any individual’s gonna transfer an enormous rock, it’s actually huge and heavy, and they get this lengthy bar and they will put the bar down on the backside beneath that rock however then they put a chunk of wooden or a block or one thing beneath it to allow them to get some leverage to drag on that and they’ll be stronger. What we do is we put the physique over like that block, a fulcrum, and then we put drive on prime, and then we induce the curvature by strengthening sure muscular tissues that solely could be strengthened when you have simultaneous posterior help, anterior help, and muscular co-contraction, then it develops curvature the place you possibly can…

I imply, I can take an athlete right here and check their hamstring tightness, check how far they will attain, and I can have them do 1 set of perhaps 10 to 15 neck flexions, a sit-up over this arch. It’s obtained a unique curvature than, like, an train ball. You don’t get the appropriate curvature simply arching over an train ball. So we’ve a specialised cushion with the groove in it towards…while you arch over it, you realize, you’re aligning your backbone, and you’re doing these sit-ups. After which we’ve one other cushion that you’ve this pelvic tilt the place it’s obtained a form beneath and you set the drive on prime. And I can do one set of every of these and stand up to 6-inch attain enchancment in an athlete the place they will arise and not have any tight hamstrings. They’re like going, “Man, I didn’t have to carry my shoulders again anymore. My shoulders are naturally…I really feel taller. I really feel lighter.” And that’s only one set of workout routines.

And so, that’s my answer. You already know, I virtually need to snort once I see that factor on Instagram the place it has this little necklace that’s like an alarm so it may sense while you’re hunching, so it vibrates and it goes off. You already know, so anyone with extreme again ache, you realize, simply telling them to face up straight doesn’t imply a lot. Like, me, I used to be virtually a miscarriage. My hips got here out twisted. I needed to put on, like, particular sneakers. Each time I walked, my one knee hit the opposite one. I used to be in continual ache. I imply, some of the eighth graders grew 9 inches in three months. And I by no means obtained that curvature. Then I used to be run over in a parking zone by a automotive. I couldn’t even breathe with out extreme ache like any individual was stabbing me a number of instances within the chest. So, I’ve been by it with again ache.

And I got here to know a chiropractor. He’s, you realize, handed on. However he did some improbable work with the U.S. Olympic staff and NFL groups, simply so occurs quite a bit of those that win all of the Tremendous Bowls as a result of he taught them these workout routines. And, you realize, I used to be instructed I’d by no means have the ability to carry my arms over my head after the automotive ran me over. However it was by these workout routines that I’ve used just about my complete life which have saved me…I imply, I’ve obtained good bone density. I don’t have any deteriorating discs. I don’t have…A bunch of edges in my bones wore off. And I do know that it’s simply correct care of the physique to get it into the form and gravity as a result of gravity is gonna win. It’s such as you see, you realize, infants are C form, have a look at all of the previous folks, they’re, like, bent over holding a cane and strolling. See they’ve misplaced their curvature. The longer you will get and preserve that curvature, the extra cell you’re gonna be, the much less ache you’re gonna have.

Katie: That makes full sense. I’ve mentioned so many instances, I feel we will be taught a lot from kids. And positively, motion is one of these issues. Like, when you watch a child that’s simply discovered tips on how to stroll, as soon as they get their stability, their squat is ideal. And so they use their complete physique after they transfer. And if we attempt to sustain with them, I’m fairly certain we’d be exhausted in about 12 minutes. However we will be taught so, a lot from them. And I’ve additionally heard you say that there’s a couple of widespread workout routines that folks do that really can weaken the core construction and make some of these issues worse. And I really feel like there’s undoubtedly some misadvice happening. So, are you able to stroll us by what you imply by that?

Eileen: Proper. Properly, quite a bit of, you realize, the athletes are doing quite a bit of workout routines to strengthen their muscular tissues. You already know, and they’re not taking a look at, you realize, have they got right impartial posture or do they a flat decrease again, you realize? There’s only a lot of totally different belongings you gotta consider on an athlete to know whether or not they need to be doing these heavy, heavy squats or whether or not they need to stop doing the leg curls with the knee joint, and various things like that. You already know, I’ve heard, like, even with Tom Brady, now, he doesn’t do weightlifting. Every little thing’s about mobility and flexibility. So I feel that’s beginning, you realize, to come back round. However there’s an analysis that must be executed on an individual and then to have the ability to add, you realize, or modify, you realize, the workout routines. So, it’s actually laborious as a result of it’s, you realize, so individualized, you realize, for particular person, you realize, to particular person so far as what they need to do.

However usually, for exercising the higher physique, you realize, what’s good for it, you realize, dips are good. Pull-ups are good. You already know, pec deck issues are good. And while you isolate leg and arm muscular tissues, you gotta guarantee that it does one thing to the place it’s not placing stress on the posture of your backbone, like on the again of the backbone. Like, strict standing or seated bicep curls or squats may cause the posterior again muscular tissues to work to stabilize that weight mass when it goes ahead from the spinal column. You already know, so regardless that they’re meant for leg or arm, you’re actually exercising these again muscular tissues, which is a poor mechanical benefit, you realize.

So, you realize, like, modify the curls, you realize. Just remember to’re utilizing one of these tilted benches to cease the drive from reaching the again as a result of, you realize, like, I do know myself, like, you realize, I’ve an previous damage in my proper shoulder. So I tend…you realize, I can’t carry as a lot with that arm and I’ll effort extra, and so it should pull on my low again extra on the appropriate facet than on the left facet. You already know, in order that’s all dangerous. You already know, so leg presses for muscular tissues on the entrance of the leg, quite a bit of instances, you realize, these athletes which have considerably good curvature might nonetheless do quite a bit of mild with quite a bit of reps. But when they begin doing actual heavy and do these items, then it will put a pressure on their low again. And that’s the place quite a bit of, like, the soccer gamers and contact accidents are gonna have issues. You already know, so these are just a few issues.

So what we must always keep away from. So again extension, bent over slides, seated rows, that causes the posture of your again muscular tissues to make use of immediately within the train, variety of like a drive of impact. So we don’t wanna activate the posture of your again muscular tissues for use as main movers, you realize, in train. So, you realize, you are able to do different workout routines to strengthen these muscular tissues with out doing these. So we simply wanna scale back accidents to the again, however strengthen our muscular tissues and strengthen our core.

Katie: That is sensible. I’ve been experimenting with weightlifting extra on this previous yr, however making an attempt to ensure I’ve the mobility earlier than that and with it as effectively, utilizing good type, however I’ve change into an enormous fan of something body weight associated. Like, pull-ups or climbing or issues that use our physique in pure methods, I really feel like that’s helped my mobility a ton, but in addition simply because it requires, like, the motion of each arms and each legs. And it looks like a way more deep core exercise than simply doing, as an illustration, like, crunches or some of these items they are saying which can be supposed to assist our core health. I discover that extra pure human actions, once more, like infants would do are a lot extra useful for the core. Is that what you discover as effectively that, like, there’s, like, a deep core motion past simply what we predict of as core workout routines?

Eileen: Yeah, effectively, see these typical core workout routines usually are not strengthening the multifidus or the inside spinalis muscular tissues. So it’s not inducing correct curvature. It’s really stressing and over-strengthening sure muscular tissues that make you lose curvature. So sure, the motion with out the weights is actually good, however there’s an actual lack in the entire business to have the ability to say, “Okay. You are able to do these workout routines three to 5 days per week for eight weeks and we will get you again to regular posture.” Who can say that? No person. As a result of they don’t have the flexibility to induce that curvature. And it’s really gonna be extra than simply the neck shaper. We’ve got the neck shaper proper now and we’re proper now pouring…we’re getting the densities proper on the froth cushions which have the groove just like the prepare observe for the neck and for the low again, and we’re gonna have them in 5 totally different diameters and three totally different densities as a result of everyone’s at a unique spot. They’re both actually injured, tremendous ahead head posture, tremendous flat again.

We obtained all these items we gotta take care of, so we obtained a unique cushion the place any individual can then do a twist and lay over these items, you realize, so that you get your discs the place they go from a sponge to a liquid. You lay over this, it induces the appropriate form. You loosen up. Gravity, you realize, just isn’t your enemy anymore. Bones really drift the place you’re laying on this. After which growth, after 20 minutes, your discs go from a liquid state again to a foam state, and you stand up and it’s, like, completely wonderful what you do. That’s like brushing your tooth. You simply try this daily. After which we’re gonna have the cushion. Now, we obtained totally different peak of folks, plus we obtained totally different densities, that’s obtained the groove in it. It’s the one which’s utilized by the New England Patriots, the Dallas Cowboys, and New York Giants, and the Jets. All of them have this. Marcus Paul, God relaxation his soul, earlier than he handed away, he had referred to as me wanting extra as a result of he discovered my identify with Dr. Sugar. However Dr. Sugar handed on and he was only a loopy mad scientist. And all these NFL groups, they don’t need anyone else to know that they obtained the key to, you realize, run sooner, leap tougher, push tougher, and not get dislocations and every little thing like this, however the basic inhabitants wants it.

So it’s like a cushion. They’ll have an built-in neck factor on it. And also you mainly do three workout routines, and it’s transformational. I don’t know. There was a man who rented one of our household industrial buildings and his child fell off of a trampoline, and he’d gone to all of the bodily therapists and every little thing however he was having these seizures daily. He was over right here and I had these ugly foam reject cushions that we’ve been taking part in round with densities, and surfaces, and all that. So I taught him tips on how to do the again twist and to put down on these cushions. And the dad obtained ahold me per week later and he says he’s by no means had a seizure since. Now, this has been, you realize, virtually a yr now. And this child takes these cushions with him in every single place in his backpack and he does them faithfully daily.

I imply, there was one other man in California that obtained one of my prototype neck shapers, and actually, he was scheduled for neck surgical procedure. And nothing would get rid of his neck ache. Three days of doing the neck shaper, simply six reps like each hour, it’s similar to having this little gadget there and you simply do it. You already know, you don’t put quite a bit of stress on. You don’t damage your self or something however simply he stretches. After three days, all of his ache was gone and he’s canceled his surgical procedure. Now, that’s been 5 months, nonetheless no want for surgical procedure. It’s simply gravity. Oh my gosh.

So, you realize, we gotta do every little thing we will to right our curvature since you gotta understand that these tight muscular tissues are there to inform you, “Don’t drift any farther out of whack. It’s gonna worsen. It’s gonna be worse on your physique.” So it’s a self-protective mechanism. We’re getting tight muscular tissues. So we obtained to induce the appropriate form and then the muscular tissues will loosen up. You’ll have higher rotation and mobility. So, yeah, it’s similar to, that is my ardour to get this out to the world as a result of it’s simply not being taught. I imply, it shouldn’t be…nobody ought to ever do a daily sit-up, ever. If you must, take a sleeping bag, a rolled-up sleeping bag as a result of the blow-up train ball, the curvature just isn’t proper. Like, roll up a sleeping bag and then arch over that sleeping bag, you realize, bend your knees, have your butt on the bottom, arch again over, and you’re gonna discover out you’re not gonna have the ability to arch again over very far.

However that’s okay. Simply go so far as you possibly can, variety of, like, grasp your head, and then simply don’t curl your chin right down to your chest. You simply, variety of, lead along with your chest and do, like, a sit-up and arch over that. You already know, I simply say, “Don’t do any extra situps.” You gotta arch over that. After which you possibly can have, like, your pal put resistance in your chest by placing their arms in your pec muscular tissues and simply basic resistance as you attempt to sit up. That’s your anterior drive. You bought your form. I imply, it doesn’t have the groove like our tools must actually, like, stretch the vertebrae and align it as you’re doing the train, however you’re gonna get the muscular co-contraction. You’re gonna get the drive, and it’s gonna strengthen the multifidus and the inside spinalis muscular tissues and begin creating that low again curve that you simply want.

And so far as, you realize, I talked about doing the again twist and laying down over some cushions, you should use specifically folded bathtub towels. Principally, you’re taking a shower towel and you fold it in half so it’s not lengthy anymore, then you definately fold in every finish so that they don’t contact one another so there’s a couple of 1-inch hole within the center, then you definately roll it up and you’re taking rubber bands on both facet as a result of relying on how fluffy your bathtub towel is, you possibly can obtain totally different diameters of that roll. Okay? So that you wanna have the ability to regulate that. So, while you place these rolls, you’re gonna want two of them, one on your low again, one on your neck. So 1 inch, simply discover the highest of your hip bones while you’re sitting down. Yow will discover the iliac mentioning. So, you set the low again roll 1 inch above that in, you realize, the small of your again. And now the neck, you roll up one of these towels to the place it simply fills the opening. So the again of your head simply barely touches the bottom, type of, you realize, filling up that complete curvature.

However earlier than you lay down on these towels, you mainly simply sit on a daily chair. It’s like once I used to play the cello. My trainer would say, “Sit in your bones.” It was such as you’d arch ahead along with your hips to the place you had been sitting in your pelvic bones, you realize. After which you possibly can simply mainly hold your chin stage and put your arms out like a 90 diploma, variety of like a rooster wing, you realize, then you definately faux like there’s a rod going by your head all the way in which down by your pelvis. So that you’re maintaining that column straight, okay? Then you definately rotate. You lead along with your eyes, and look again, and you arch, and you simply rotate, you realize, the place your elbow goes all the way in which again. So, you simply return and forth, again and forth, you try this rotation, main along with your eyes, you realize, then what that does is it pumps blood within the vessels close to the discs, and it causes the rotation or hydration to enter the discs however extra blood circulate and it modifications the discs from that dense foam to extra like a liquid.

So, then we would like you instantly to put down over these two towels I described. One for the low again, one for the neck. You lay down, you realize, along with your legs straight so that you’re simply supine on the ground for 20 minutes. Then while you stand up, don’t do a sit-up, roll over to your facet and push up along with your arms. And it’s such as you can be amazed. You already know, if any listeners have any tight muscular tissues, ache, simply utilizing the towels and doing that train might be transformational for you. And so, that’s why we’re arising with three densities. You already know, smooth for the injured, medium for the newbie, and laborious for the athlete. After which we’ve the 5 totally different diameters. So, as your curvature begins to extend, then you possibly can change the diameter and have that help, you realize, in your backbone. And so, you realize, it’s like having had again ache, it’s like you possibly can’t actually concentrate on a lot of anything. It’s simply so laborious and it consumes a lot power. I’ve a lot empathy for those that are actually going by it, and that’s quite a bit of folks.

Katie: It completely is. And positively, the options you’re speaking about, studying to maneuver higher and have higher posture and work with gravity as an alternative of towards it and then have these instruments just like the neck shaper, are a a lot simpler and extra pure, and additionally much less painful various than issues like surgical procedures or steroids or so many of the issues which can be provided as the primary line of remedy. And I do know…to not say that there’s by no means a spot for these issues however definitely, we’re seeing all these issues rise and it’s definitely not from a steroid deficiency or a again surgical procedure deficiency. So it’s so significantly better to, like, what you’re doing and handle that root trigger and work out tips on how to get our our bodies again in alignment and such as you talked about, all of the advantages that go together with that. And to not point out, letting go of these tons of of kilos of further stress that don’t have to be on our backbone simply from studying tips on how to stand, and transfer, and exist like a traditional human once more, and understand we weren’t meant to stare down at a display screen all day lengthy. I learn that, you realize, our heads are so heavy, even simply that small tilt ahead to take a look at a display screen consistently vastly modifications every little thing as a result of every little thing stems from the neck. And also you’ve talked about that and defined how mainly, that’s a ripple impact all the way in which down, basically, our complete complete physique.

Eileen: Yeah, and folks don’t understand, you realize, that our mind, all of the nerves that management every little thing in our physique goes by the spinal column. After which the dura has these little sheaths the place the nerves, you realize, come out in between vertebrae to go feed and management, you realize, the nervous system as a result of we’ve obtained the parasympathetic nervous system, you realize, we obtained the sympathetic nervous system. You already know, we obtained issues going to on a regular basis in our physique. And, you realize, simply having pinched nerves…you realize, any individual might be complaining of digestion and it might be a loss of curvature within the mid-back, pinching nerves within the again. You already know, and then we’re simply, you realize, sure, enzymes and we’re like combining meals and we’re doing all this type of stuff to enhance our digestion, but when our nerves are pinched that offer the organ the stimulation to operate usually, you’re not gonna win.

And so, there’s simply that element that we actually want to consider, the form of that backbone, you realize, and how once we do get correct curvature, as a result of of the design, bone-on-bone is so sturdy, simply think about with correct curvature, the way it’s, like, tremendous laborious on your backbone to exit of whack. It’s like, these days, you realize, we’ve obtained all types of issues, even our tissues usually are not as resilient as they was as a result of we obtained issues with copper toxicity. So our complete connective tissue, it’s variety of like a spiderweb that doesn’t have each horizontal and vertical help members, you realize. So we obtained dietary elements which can be contributing to, you realize, backbone issues, again ache, these sorts of issues as effectively. You already know, so I’m an incredible proponent…I don’t assume there’s any silver bullet for something. However, you realize, we’ve to, variety of, have a look at gravity as a serious contributor. Sure, let’s do some good eating regimen. Sure, let’s detoxify. Sure, let’s get some sleep. Let’s watch the solar. You already know, we do all these items collectively and it’s gonna actually make a distinction.

Katie: Agreed. And I’ve been taking notes when you’ve been speaking to place within the present notes at wellnessmama.fm. There can even be a hyperlink there to the neck shaper so that you guys can see that. I’ve obtained one and I’ve been utilizing it at my home. And I do discover an actual distinction in my head alignment and simply the strain in my head, and my neck, and my jaw once I use that repeatedly. And I don’t even have a look at my telephone in all probability as a lot as quite a bit of folks do. So undoubtedly we’ll have that information there at wellnessmama.fm so that you guys can discover it and be taught extra. I’ll additionally, of course, hyperlink to our different podcast episodes. Folks can be taught from our first one as effectively and from all of your different merchandise. And also you mentioned that you’ve extra merchandise approaching this. And, of course, it is a subject that appears to be getting more and more vital. So, I feel we’ll need to do one other spherical finally and deal with some questions we’ll get from this one.

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However Eileen, thanks a lot. This has been such a enjoyable episode. Any parting recommendation or ebook suggestions you’d like to go away with folks in the present day?

Eileen: Properly, actually one of my favourite books is “Your Physique’s Many Cries for Water.” I feel I actually do agree with Dr. Batmanghelidj that 80% of illness is since you’re dehydrated. However one of the elements in there that basically pertains to the again is your physique is not going to feed water to your spinal discs, these cushions, when you’re dehydrated as a result of there’s extra vital issues like your bone marrow. I imply, there’s a hierarchy, proper? You already know, you don’t have sufficient water, you begin depriving your joint cartilage, and your discs, and your backbone. And the motion, the versatile motion that you are able to do helps to pump water in there to plump that up to allow them to do extra of their job so that you’re much less compressed, you’re much less tense. However, you realize, keep hydrated, that’s what I gotta say. That’s, like, one of an important issues.

Katie: That’s an incredible one. Yeah, definitely, and that strains up, I really feel like with the mobility and good posture as effectively as a result of I’ve learn that our joints, since they’re not built-in, they don’t have blood circulate that goes to them, and that’s how they get vitamins is thru hydration and motion. So in terms of joints, we’d like hydration and motion. In order that’s such an ideal level to finish, I consider. And like I mentioned, we’ll need to do one other spherical someday quickly. However I’m an enormous fan of the neck shaper. You guys undoubtedly test it out. And Eileen, thanks on your time.

Eileen: Oh, you’re welcome.

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